Monday, October 12, 2015

Obama Says Russian Strikes on ISIS are “Strengthening” ISIS


You read that right. Venturing beyond Orwellian double-speak.
Welcome to Obamaland, the mysterious, schizophrenic world where the truth is inverted. Washington is rapidly losing the microscopic amount of respect it had around the world, as US propaganda is becoming more childish by the week. Any rational person who is even remotely informed just sits back in amazement at the volume of deceptive, deceitful, and outright ludicrous statements constantly spewing from the mouths of top US officials. One of the latest comical episodes was when the US President, Barack Obama, actually tried to argue that Russian airstrikes against the so-called Islamic State (ISIS/IS/ISIL) are “only strengthening ISIL”:

“The moderate opposition in Syria is one that, if we’re ever going to have a political transition, we need. And the Russian policy is driving those folks underground or creating a situation in which they are [debilitated], and it’s only strengthening ISIL.”
So in Obama’s mind, Russia pounding key ISIS positions and other affiliated terrorist groups isn’t halting the groups rise, but “strengthening” it.…
Obviously, the Western narrative that there are “moderate” terrorists fighting in Syria which we can trust and we should arm, is (and always has been), a total fallacy. “In reality, from the beginning, there were never any moderates,” as Tony Cartalucci wrote in his article for New Eastern Outlook: US Complains As Russia Bombs its Terrorists. “The Salafists, the Muslim Brotherhood and AQI (al-Qaeda in Iraq), are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria,” was the assessment of the Defense Intelligence Agency in their declassified intelligence report from 2012. Just in case Obama doesn’t understand his own intelligence reports, al-Qaeda does NOT qualify as a “moderate” rebel group, they are as extreme as you can possibly get!….
New Eastern Outlook
Obama Says Russian Strikes on ISIS are “Strengthening” ISIS
Steve McMilan

7 comments:

mike norman said...

If you watched him on 60 Minutes last night he's either totally clueless or a blatant liar. (Puppet of the neocons.)

Ryan Harris said...

I'm not clear on how dropping American bombs or Russian bombs will change the culture of violent Jihad. The flow of thousands of foreign fighters are going somewhere to do their missionary duty as warriors. Polling data is pretty clear and consistent, jihad including the violent interpretation is supported by a majority of everyday average people in most countries across north africa, middle east, southwest asia, and arab world. These crusades to convert, purge and kill non-believers aren't going to end without some major changes to religion, politics and economies. In Western countries there is a bit of denial about it. There is a narrative about how Jihad is really meant to be a peaceful internal struggle but the writings of centuries of religious scholars beg to differ and remain influential. It doesn't take much to motivate ambitious disaffected youth.

John said...

No surprise if the Muslim Brotherhood joins the jihadis. Although an Islamist organisation, the Brotherhood is unbelievably liberal and democratic when compared to our ally Saudi Arabia. So the Brotherhood's alleged extremism or alleged anti-democratic nature cannot be the reason we dislike it.

The jihadis were forever berating the Brotherhood that democracy gets you nowhere. Even if you win, they claimed, the "democrats" won't recognise your legitimacy and will overthrow you or annul the elections like in Algeria during the nineties. The Brotherhood disagreed and were intent on what was essentially a peaceful and democratic revolution. They won the election. A year or so later, they were overthrown by a military coup in Egypt. The new military dictator of Egypt is called Mr President by the Western democracies. We told you so, said the jihadis.

Bob Salsa said...

I can't think of a better example of the US/Obama hate derangement syndrome than those who so smugly and assuredly stated US bombs would do no good and Russian bombs can do no wrong.

As far as the interview, you have to be a warmongering Putin syncopath to not grasp Obama's smack down of the Right's talking point -

Steve Kroft: --bombing the people-- that we are supporting.

President Barack Obama: So that's leading, Steve? Let me ask you this question. When I came into office, Ukraine was governed by a corrupt ruler who was a stooge of Mr. Putin. Syria was Russia's only ally in the region. And today, rather than being able to count on their support and maintain the base they had in Syria, which they've had for a long time, Mr. Putin now is devoting his own troops, his own military, just to barely hold together by a thread his sole ally. And in Ukraine--

Steve Kroft: He's challenging your leadership, Mr. President. He's challenging your leadership-

President Barack Obama: -Well Steve, I got to tell you, if you think that running your economy into the ground and having to send troops in in order to prop up your only ally is leadership, then we've got a different definition of leadership. My definition of leadership would be leading on climate change, an international accord that potentially we'll get in Paris. My definition of leadership is mobilizing the entire world community to make sure that Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon. And with respect to the Middle East, we've got a 60-country coalition that isn't suddenly lining up around Russia's strategy. To the contrary, they are arguing that, in fact, that strategy will not work.


... and more smack down here -

Steve Kroft: --they say you're projecting a weakness, not a strength--

President Barack Obama: --you're saying "they," but you're not citing too many folks. But here--

Steve Kroft: No, I'll cite-- I'll cite if you want me, too.

President Barack Obama: --here-- yes. Here--

Steve Kroft: I'd say the Saudis. I'd say the Israelis. I'd say a lot of our friends in the Middle East. I'd say everybody in the Republican party. Well, you want me to keep going?

President Barack Obama: Yeah. The-- the-- if you are-- if you're citing the Republican party, I think it's fair to say that there is nothing I've done right over the last seven and a half years. And I think that's right. It-- and-- I also think what is true is that these are the same folks who were making an argument for us to go into Iraq and who, in some cases, still have difficulty acknowledging that it was a mistake. And Steve, I guarantee you that there are factions inside of the Middle East, and I guess factions inside the Republican party who think that we should send endless numbers of troops into the Middle East, that the only measure of strength is us sending back several hundred thousand troops, that we are going to impose a peace, police the region, and-- that the fact that we might have more deaths of U.S. troops, thousands of troops killed, thousands of troops injured, spend another trillion dollars, they would have no problem with that. There are people who would like to see us do that. And unless we do that, they'll suggest we're in retreat.



I am a firm believer in MMT tenants, but the irrational Obama-hate/Putin-luv derangement shown on this blog makes me wonder if I'm missing something.

What I'm certain of, is that I'm very glad we have an adult in the White House.

Tom Hickey said...

As Mike says, Obama is either delusional or a pathological liar, and it's not only regarding foreign policy. He snookered the country, just like I said he would during the 2008 campaign. Not that I was for Hillary or any of the other Democratic stooges. I did vote for Obama and I am not sorry I did. As I said at the time, too, McCain will be a catastrophe while Obama only a disaster. At least he hasn't entirely followed the neocon playbook and has managed to somewhat thwart the war hawks, or the US would already have been at war with Iran in the first McCain administration and at war with Russia now.

Obama is the best of the worst.

Bob Salsa said...

Yea, and if Obama sat back and did nothing, ISIS would be in Baghdad and the Sauds would be in direct confrontation with Iran - no Iranian nuclear deal, the entire Region in flames that would make current Syria look like a Girl Scout gathering, oil would be over $300/barrel, the world economy in the toilet, and your beloved NeoCons pushing for NATO to take out those Russian tanks sitting in Kiev and Tallin.

Isolationists are about as magic ponyland childish as their neoCon counterparts.

We're going to miss having an adult in the White House.

John said...

Bob Salsa,

Are you in fact Barack Obama?